The Shrine BBS
« Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us....... »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
Jan 19th, 2018, 5:06pm


Slow connection? Page slow to load? Choose the 'Lite' version from the dropdown box below to switch off the images :)

« Previous Topic | Next Topic »
Pages: 1  Notify Send Topic Print
 thread  Author  Topic: Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us.......  (Read 1785 times)
Princessa
SBBS Big Cheese
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Tired but heading for the gym...


Homepage PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4270
xx Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us.......
« Thread started on: Oct 21st, 2004, 11:36am »

So a preview of the game I have been dreading - the Arse is coming to Trafford and it's not going to be pretty...

Not quite as ugly as when they still had Parlour and Keown, but you know... ugly nonetheless....

MANCHESTER UNITED against Arsenal is THE most significant match of the Premiership season so far. United may be undefeated in 12 League and Cup games, but have made their worst ever start to a Premiership season. The Gunners have made the best start ever by any team to a Premiership campaign. Victory for Arsene Wenger's side would give the defending champions a 14 point lead over their arch rivals, but a win for United would reduce the deficit to within a more management eight points and mean the Red Devils had become for first club to accumulate exactly 1,000 Premiership points.

The Red Devils are unbeaten in eight Premiership games, and are yet to lose a League match at the Theatre of Dreams. This "Battle of the Titans" pits simply the two most successful Premier League clubs against each other. Between them United and Arsenal have won all but one of the 12 Premier League titles. They have filled the top two places five times, and there has never been a Premiership season when at least one of the pair has not filled one of the top two berths. United have won 295 matches to Arsenal's 252, and scored 936 goals to the Londoners' 785. Sir Alex Ferguson, who's nine games short of 1,000 in charge of United, has won eight of the 12 Premiership titles to Arsenal's three and his side has never gone two seasons without lifting the trophy.

The last three Premiership clashes between these two heavyweights were drawn. Last season's corresponding fixture, which was goalless, turned into a dramatic and unsavoury affair and has been the cause of pre-match hype between the two managers. Ruud van Nistelrooy was at the centre of attention. The Dutch striker smacked an injury time penalty against the crossbar to spark a distasteful reaction from the Arsenal players, who had felt United's scoring ace had over reacted to get Patrick Vieira sent off. Their indiscipline was ultimately costly in terms of suspensions (four players banned a total of nine matches) and fines (in excess of £200,000 for club and players).

ARSENAL head for Old Trafford with one aim - to complete an unprecedented half century of unbeaten League games. They're bidding for a fourth successive top flight win, and sixth on the bounce away from Highbury. The "Invincibles" are undefeated this season in 13 League and Cup encounters and have gone 21 games in all competitions since suffering defeat. They boast the strongest attack in the top flight (29 goals in nine outings) and a 100% League record on the road. Away from Highbury, the champions have completed 27 top tier matches without a loss.

Arsene Wenger, who's on the verge of signing a three year extension to his contract, still holds the advantage in the head-to-head count with his managerial counterpart. The Frenchman has 11 wins to his name, Sir Alex Ferguson eight with six draws (counting last season's Community Shield as a United win). This is their second meeting this season - the Gunners having won the Community Shield 3-1 at the Millennium Stadium in August.

Arsenal's only triumph in the last six Premiership trips to the Theatre of Dreams was 0-1 on 8 May 2002 when Sylvain Wiltord scored the winner.

REF FACT - Mike Riley has sent a player off in each of the last three Premiership matches he has officiated - Darren Purse (West Brom), Ian Pearce (Fulham) and Tugay (Blackburn).

# If he participates, Wayne ROONEY will be playing on his 19th birthday.
# When he next scores, Roy KEANE will have totalled 50 goals for Manchester United.
# Alan SMITH is the only remaining player to have figured in all United's Premiership matches this season.
# Ruud VAN NISTELROOY has only scored one Premiership goal against Arsenal.
# If involved from the outset, Phil NEVILLE will be making his 200th Premiership start for the Red Devils.

# Thierry HENRY is the Premiership's top scorer, and the leading scorer among all Premiership players in all club competitions. The Frenchman has netted nine times - eight in the League.
# Arsenal's last 12 League and Cup fixtures against United have produced eight goals from HENRY, who has bagged seven Premiership goals against them.
# Robert PIRES is a hat trick short of 50 Premiership goals.
# Fredrik LJUNGBERG is a double short of totalling 50 goals across the European leagues. The Swedish International has scored 38 Premiership goals for Arsenal, in addition to 10 top flight strikes for Halmstads BK in Sweden.
# If selected in the 11, Pascal CYGAN will be making his 50th start for the North London giants.

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS
League: Man Utd 68 wins, Arsenal 63, Draws 39
Prem: Man Utd 9 wins, Arsenal 7, Draws 7

HEAD TO HEAD at Man U
League: Man Utd 47 wins, Arsenal 14, Draws 24
Prem: Man Utd 6 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 4
User IP Logged

User Image
Princessa
SBBS Big Cheese
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Tired but heading for the gym...


Homepage PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4270
xx Re: Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us....
« Reply #1 on: Oct 26th, 2004, 03:23am »

OH MY FUCKING GOD - HOW GOOD WAS IT TO BEAT THE ARSE 2-0?

Manchester United ensured Arsenal's unbeaten run did not reach number 50 as two second half goals earned The Red Devils a vital 2-0 win over their arch rivals at Old Trafford.

A controversial Ruud van Nistelrooy penalty and a late strike from birthday boy Wayne Rooney were enough to bring an end to The Gunners' air of invincibility.

In truth, it was a disappointing affair with genuine chances at a premium, but Sir Alex Ferguson will not mind as his side closed the gap on the leaders to eight points.

There was a high tempo to proceedings from the off, and it was United who carved out the opening opportunity on seven minutes.

Vieira failed to cut out a Gabriel Heinze cross that allowed Rooney a sight of goal but Toure got in a fine block.

However, the ball quickly found it's way back to Rooney, who cut back unselfishly for Ryan Giggs, but this time it was Sol Campbell who got in a crucial last-ditch block.

United did have the ball in the net on 15 minutes when Scholes flashed the ball past Jens Lehmann from 25 yards out, but referee Mike Riley had already blown for a foul on Edu.

However, the match official infuriated Arsenal by refusing to whistle three minutes later when Rio Ferdinand appeared to bundle over Freddie Ljungberg as he raced goalwards - replays showed the England centre half was lucky to escape without punishment, especially as he was the last defender.

Arsenal had their first chance of note on 19 minutes but, unusually, Dennis Bergkamp's first touch let him down and the ball ran away from him and into the grateful hands of Roy Carroll before the Dutchman could get in a shot.

The inevitable edge to game was heightened after a succession of dubious challenges that referee Riley chose not to caution, although he did eventually decide to clamp down and produced three bookings in as many minutes for Ashley Cole and the Neville brothers.

The hosts had another half chance five minutes before the interval when a left-wing corner broke to Cristiano Ronaldo, but the Portuguese starlet could not direct his effort on target from eight yards.

Arsenal responded with a trademark counter which culminated in Edu slipping a clever ball into the path of Henry, who had lost Ferdinand with a darting run, but Carroll was out quickly to smother the Frenchman's effort.

The needle which kept threatening to resurface did so moments later when Henry's clumsy challenge on Heinze saw a host of players from both sides square up to each other, although Riley restored order without adding further names to his notebook.

Lauren created the first danger of the second period with a superb right-wing cross that United struggled to deal with. A minute later, another cross from the right - this time from Ljungberg - provided Bergkamp with a sight of goal, but he screwed his effort wide.

Ronaldo then spurned an inviting opportunity when he rose to meet an inswinging free-kick from Ryan Giggs, but he could not direct his header on target.

The game became rather scrappy and it was not until the 65th minute that the next effort of note arrived courtesy of a 20-yard drive from Heinze.

The match burst back into life in dramatic style on 71 minutes when Riley awarded the hosts their spot-kick - the eighth he has given to United in the eight games he has officiated at Old Trafford - after Rooney went down under challenge from Campbell.

There appeared minimal contact between the England colleagues, but van Nistelrooy kept his nerve despite prolonged Arsenal protests and laid the ghost of his crucial miss in last year's corresponding fixture by coolly dispatching his penalty low to the left of Lehmann, who went the wrong way.

Inevitably, the goal brought a response from The Gunners, who stepped up a level as they looked to preserve their proud unbeaten record.

Ashley Cole went agonisingly close for Arsene Wenger's men after some intricate passing had ended with substitute Robert Pires laying into the full back's path.

As the visitors continued to press forward, gaps appeared at the other end and Giggs should really have settled the contest after being played in by Scholes, but Lehmann produced a good save to deny the Welshman.

However, the game was decided moments later. United broke forward and, after Saha had played in Alan Smith, the former Leeds United star produced an intelligent cut-back for Rooney, who gleefully buried the ball past Lehmann to celebrate his 19th birthday in style.

While only worth three points, Ferguson and his troops will know the value of the triumph which has breathed new life into their Premiership title challenge.
User IP Logged

User Image
Princessa
SBBS Big Cheese
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Tired but heading for the gym...


Homepage PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4270
xx Re: Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us....
« Reply #2 on: Oct 26th, 2004, 03:23am »

The question is: How will Arsenal respond to finally losing a game after their remarkable 49-match unbeaten run?

The 2-0 defeat at Manchester United will be analysed in minute detail and Arsene Wenger clearly feels aggrieved at the manner of the loss. Referee Mike Riley has been criticised for penalising Sol Campbell's challenge on Wayne Rooney, and not punishing Rio Ferdinand for blocking Freddie Ljungberg in the first half.

United argue they should have had a second spot-kick when Ashley Cole up-ended Cristiano Ronaldo and maybe that Rooney was simply cuter than Kolo Toure, who performed a swan-dive in the United box late on in a desperate bid to see Riley level things up.

There is no doubt that Campbell made an ill-timed lunge towards Rooney although television replays show there was minimal contact and even his close pal Steven Gerrard felt the new United number eight 'won' the penalty.

Arsenal fans will protest that Riley always gives United spot-kicks, although not on the occasion when Ronaldo was felled, and that England's teen terror was guilty of blatant gamesmanship. If Patrick Vieira or, Heaven forbid, Robert Pires had performed a similar stunt, the debate surrounding foreign players' alleged tendency to cheat to win penalties would have reared its head again.

The fact is the referee's performance is scrutinised and, with the aid of a variety of television angles, usually criticised for decisions made with split-second timing.

Yes, the officials do get things wrong but that is what makes football such an enthralling game. Even though the stakes were extremely high, the human element allows managers, players and supporters alike to debate decisions and defeats for days and weeks on end.

When Riley is being questioned for his choice of whether to flash a yellow card or administer a strong talking to, it maybe is a case of too much focus being trained on the official. Most games pass by with blatant bookable offences going unpunished, particular this season when the benefit of the doubt seems to be applied more often than not.

Rooney's injury time clincher failed to lessen Arsenal's sense of injustice. Thierry Henry and Jens Lehmann seemed most unwilling to accept defeat and Patrick Vieira, as Sir Alex Ferguson noted afterwards, has developed the irritating habit of spending most of the 90 minutes and its aftermath cajoling the referee.

Yet perhaps this failure to lose gracefully is what makes Arsenal such a formidable force.

Of course, The Gunners should not take this defeat too hard. To go 49 games unbeaten is a tremendous, unprecedented feat. They had the better of the game for long periods and, despite mustering only one shot on target, looked championship class again.

What Wenger's men must not do is allow their grievances to consume their mood. Although some pundits may argue otherwise, the fact is that they have cruised through much of their unbeaten run.

The gulf in class between the North Londoners and their opponents was evident on all but a few occasions in all that time and the truth is United have struggled this term against teams Arsenal would beat in their sleep.

Even though Sunday's win will lift morale at Old Trafford, they have a mountain to climb in the title race and the success against another bitter foe, Liverpool, failed to have the desired effect of sparking a run of victories.

Indeed, it is Chelsea who must be feared most by The Gunners if they suffer from their aura of invincibility being destroyed.

The Blues' extraordinarily efficient defence means they are likely to challenge the champions all the way.

So it is up to Arsenal to simply start off on another stretch of unbeaten games, which they are more than capable of doing. The Gunners were defeated against a side they will hate losing to more than most - the side they are still striving to usurp as the dominant force in the land; a title which only retaining the championship will confirm.

The FA Cup semi-final loss to United last season may have had an effect on the way the Highbury outfit played when crashing out of the UEFA Champions League to Chelsea soon afterwards.

It is up to Wenger and his players to get the latest United defeat quickly out of their system in order to return to their imperious best.

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has warned that the inevitable ending of the record run would allow Arsenal's opponents to shed some of their inferiority complex. This is another reason why it is imperative The Gunners regain their focus, verve and unflinching confidence.

It is a test for the champions, but one they should relish.
User IP Logged

User Image
Shib
Shrine Groper
ImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Im Shibby ME!


PM


Posts: 151
xx Re: Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us....
« Reply #3 on: Oct 26th, 2004, 5:47pm »

he he...

YAY! man u!!!

I like that ronaldo dude, hes funny.
User IP Logged

User Image
Princessa
SBBS Big Cheese
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Tired but heading for the gym...


Homepage PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4270
xx Re: Man Utd v Arsenal - they are gonna kill us....
« Reply #4 on: Oct 27th, 2004, 02:41am »

He is such a tricky little fucker - he must be a nightmare to try to play left back against. Plus he wears braces and changes his hair every week. We love him.

My fave of the new boys is Heinze - he has has a couple of days where he has not shone quite as much but he is tough and likes to bring the ball forward. For the first time since Irwin we have a left back that I genuinely like.
User IP Logged

User Image
Pages: 1  Notify Send Topic Print
« Previous Topic | Next Topic »

Donate $6.99 for 50,000 Ad-Free Pageviews!

| |

This forum powered for FREE by Conforums ©
Sign up for your own Free Message Board today!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Conforums Support | Parental Controls